June 20, 2025

"With Cleffa, We Wear Pink" ft. Cleffa Doing Stuff | TRAINER'S EYE #168

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She thought her Pokémon days were over…until a Cleffa figurine and a Facebook page brought it all back, and this time, she wasn’t alone.

The creator of Cleffa Doing Stuff shares how a lost childhood collection, a supportive partner, and a tiny fairy Pokémon helped her rediscover joy through the Pokemon TCG, social media storytelling, and the magic of everyday moments. From pink sleeves to plush-filled memories, it’s a journey that proves there’s no wrong way to be a fan and no dream too small to matter. Whether you’re into card collecting, daily nostalgia scrolls, or Pokémon-inspired creativity, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

Listen now and rediscover what it means to belong, one Cleffa photo at a time.

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I'm Cleffa Doing Stuff and this is my Pokemon story.

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Welcome to As The Pokeball Turns where every voice, every journey, and every memory brings us closer to the world of Pokemon.

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I'm David Hernandez and I'm joined by the creator of one of the most wholesome corners of the Pokemon fandom.

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The voice behind Cleffa Doing Stuff.

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Brittany, welcome to Ask the Pokemon Turns.

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Thank you for coming on the show.

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Thank

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Thank you for you me.

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I'm very excited to be here and talking about.

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Cleffa Doing Stuff.

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I'm Too, and actually remember, I think I remember you just starting, it was back in December of 2024.

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I'm like, this is such a cool idea because back when I was trying to figure out my voice for content creation.

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I was actually had this idea of kinda what you just did, but with Plushies to where I would take a plushie and just take like random photos and just take pictures like just like what you're doing.

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And I just found it like just kind of touching to see you starting this.

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And I just been such a fan of what you do ever since.

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And I kind of wanted to start with this question.

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So what was the very first thing that Cleffa ever did and how did you kind of decide that this tiny Pokemon needed a whole Facebook page of adventures?

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Oh my.

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Well, That's a great Uh, the first The first thing.

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Cleffa ever really did is Cleffa sat on top of a lamp, for her profile picture.

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Just, a little picture of, her, lit up with better lighting than, you know.

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I, Had back then.

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But, I came up with Cleffa Doing Stuff because we had all these Pokemon figurines and, I'm just a fan of Cleffa.

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I love the Pokemon.

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She's so cute.

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She's a baby, of course.

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So you, you've gotta love, little Baby Pokemon.

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And I thought, well, wouldn't it be cool if I just took her to different places, saw different things, had her do different activities.

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And, apparently other people love that too.

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So I just, it kind of started with just an idea of what if, and I tried it to see where it would go.

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Did you ever expect the many people to, I guess, be engaged as much when it comes to Cleffa?

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Like just a small figurine, just going around the world, kind of seeing its own thing?

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I definitely didn't.

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I thought that the idea was cute and that other people would like it, but I have grown a lot in a short amount of time.

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I think I, I'm almost at 1400 followers, so for six months, that's like.

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Huge.

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and I think really it's just, I attribute it to a lot of things like Cleffa is cute, it's wholesome.

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you know, I think people can really connect and enjoy that content.

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And just the simplicities of what she does are day-to-day tasks, you know, whether it be laundry or brushing your teeth.

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So I think everybody can relate to it.

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And it's a cute thing too.

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So it really did just take off.

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but I was not expecting the amount of turnout that there has been.

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is Cleffa your favorite Pokemon, and if so, kind of what solidified it?

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So Cleffa?

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Yeah, say she's got, I mean, she's gotta be my favorite Pokemon, right?

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I've got a whole page surrounding her.

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So.

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a little bit of a fan maybe.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And, but there's I think that that into that so my, original experience with Pokemon, is actually a little bit different than other people.

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When I started out in elementary school, I collected some cards and it was cute.

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You know, I mostly liked the art.

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It was exciting.

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and then, I went through a move and my mom said that the cards got lost in the move and.

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oh my gosh.

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Yeah, I was devastated.

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but after that, like I was a stubborn kid.

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So after that happened I was like, no, I'm not gonna have anything to do with Pokemon anymore.

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So I didn't pick it up until, you know, just a few years ago, when I got with my current partner and he runs a Facebook page too.

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and so.

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he's kind of really what sparked my, hobby now with Pokemon and my interest into it again, which is interesting later in life.

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but related back to Clefairy and how that came about is the The very thing that he and I did together, was create decks to play the TCG together.

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and there's a lot powerful decks out there you can see like what's competitive.

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but I wanted something that was cute and that I felt really matched my aesthetic and was me.

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And as we explored options, what we settled on was building a Clefairy deck.

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Uh, so, so yeah, that was my first, uh, TCG deck and my My favorite one.

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it.

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Themed, like, my dice are pink, I've got purple sleeves.

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So it's like a very cute, like girly aesthetic deck, you know.

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But I really found a love for her through playing that deck, because I just really connected with it.

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It was my first significant experience with Pokemon ever since I was a kid.

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So, you know, Cleffa's just cuter version of Clefairy, so you can't not love

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Do you remember, I guess, how it felt to lose your collection back in the day?

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'cause it's almost sounds like your mom said they lost it.

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Almost like when your parents say, oh, the hamster escaped.

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You know, and it part secretly got, uh, smushed or something, you know, something terrible happened to it.

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Did it kinda leave something deeper that you kinda left behind that made you not wanna go back initially?

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Yeah, I mean, also I'm not even sure She said it got lost.

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I don't know if it was lost or sold.

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My mom did that's what I'm saying.

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Yeah.

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You know, it could be little quotation marks around that.

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So, yeah, yeah, I.

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I was just a belligerent kid maybe at times, and it was like outta stubbornness.

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I was like, no, you know, I felt like I was slighted, so I just got frustrated and was like, no, I'm not gonna mess with this anymore.

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So, little did I know how much I was missing out on, but you know, it's never too late to pick up the franchise.

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And I think that's something that's special about it because it really does appeal to a wider, range of ages and people with different life experiences.

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So it's.

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Fortunate that I could pick it up later in life.

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but Definitely a little salty about that.

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there's another Charizard I'm sure in that collection that's probably where it all went.

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It's always a Charizard collected wherever something cards go missing or they get sold or whatever you call it.

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Yeah, it could be, remember remember they were.

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bi, like a little binder almost.

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It had like a class, but it was red.

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think, I think that it, it must have had Charmander on the front.

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Probably.

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I remember it remember vividly.

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But you know who, where it went.

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We'll, we'll never know.

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now you mentioned your partner, he also runs a Facebook page, I think it's called Mr.

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Zigzagoon, now he helped you bring back Pokemon, you know, later on in life.

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What was that moment like for y'all?

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Not only as, I guess a couple, but also for you to kind of relive.

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I guess maybe the childhood that kind of left a scarf for a bit and reconnecting with something that you kind of once left behind.

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so, my partner, Mr.

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Zigzagoon, I would say, whereas, you know, I'm just getting back into this in recent years, he has been a diehard fan since he was a kid.

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some people collect here and there, he is an extreme collector.

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So there was no way that we were gonna have a relationship in Pokemon, not be a part of it.

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We now live together.

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Our home is like a museum of all sorts of Pokemon stuff.

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Um, So I think at at first it.

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overwhelming because I'm like, man, his favorite thing as a franchise that, like, I know of, of course, because everybody knows Pokemon, but I'm not an expert.

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So I think.

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I felt a little intimidated.

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I felt a little bad that I didn't know more about it.

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But what I found as like both as a partner and as someone who's into Pokemon, he's been incredibly supportive.

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He's never made me feel bad for what I do or don't know.

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He's just excited to like, see me enjoy it.

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I think for him, like it's like getting to see someone, you know, uh, experience these things for the first time again.

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So, it's been really rewarding in that way and a fun way to bond.

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And I would say that it's.

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Collective of the Pokemon community as a whole, because I really haven't had that experience where anybody's ever, you know, treated me Badly or opinions for me, getting into it later in life, like everybody's just been warm and welcoming and they're happy to see other people enjoying Pokemon.

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that's amazing to see.

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'cause sometimes some Pokemon fans, at least online, they kind of have this snobby attitudes like, how do you not know this?

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Like they have an assumption.

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That you should know this stuff, but for you, and you even told me before we scheduled this interview that, Hey, I don't know much about Pokemon.

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You're very upfront about it.

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did having that, I guess, source of comfort or source of solidarity with your partner kind of help you engage with Pokemon A lot better?

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You think?

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Yeah, I definitely think so because having somebody life that it's like you're not afraid to ask them something, makes you feel more confident.

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And he, he never would judge me.

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You know, we would laugh sometimes.

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he would show me a Pokemon and be like, which one is this?

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And I'd be like, uh, I don't know.

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So that, that was fun, but it was never it was never mean.

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And he was just excited to see me grow and learn.

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And I think that's part of, too, what, what gave me confidence.

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I think that, It's a bit gutsy to start a page about something that like, you know, I.

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like decades of experience like my partner does, but you know, to, to start a page surrounding a Pokemon is like a little bit intimidating in that way, but I've learned so much.

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Everybody's been supportive and it's okay'cause we're all at different places with it.

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And I found that like, some people know about the TCG, some people only play the video games.

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Some people just like them because they're cute.

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And I think all of those are equally valid.

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I agree because for me, like you know, I've had Pokemon my whole life.

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You know, I've grew up with the type change.

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I grew up with the history, but there's a lot of parts of Pokemon that I'm not even sure about.

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I couldn't tell you about Pokemon sleep.

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I can't even tell you about Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.

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I couldn't tell you about the Pokemon Anime now because.

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I just haven't kept up with it.

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I'm one man with 24 hours and unfortunately I don't have that much time,

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Right.

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I guess that's kind of keeps us grounded to where like there's always gonna be something in this franchise that you're not gonna know, whether you're a hardcore fan or whether you're somebody who's starting out or one, maybe somebody who's just a casual, whichever level you fall in, there's always gonna be something you don't know.

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But that's kind of the beauty of Pokemon.

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If you are welcome to that not nuance newcomer, I guess, type of mentality.

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There's always something to learn.

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To me, it's kinda almost like life in a way.

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Yeah,

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Yeah, it is.

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And, and I think that that's been really nice with my page too.

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I think everybody can engage and identify with Cleffa Doing Stuff, because there's really not any barriers to relating with it and just appreciating the cute, you know, scenes and, and content that I put out.

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So it's been nice and I feel like I've gotten to connect with Pokemon fans from all of those different facets in all All walks place.

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So enjoyed that.

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now you described your home as a Pokemon museum, so I'm thinking like Pokemon everywhere, like a Pokemon poster.

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You got Pokemon toilet paper, Pokemon towels, you know, the whole works maybe.

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And I want to know like is there anything from that collection that you have that kind of sticks with you or something that you have like fondness for?

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Oh my goodness.

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So I love all my stuff.

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it's all really enjoyable to look at.

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I would say one of the funniest and, and things that I love the most is that we've started the, the Squish Melow collection since they put out all these, Pokemon Squish melow, which

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Oh, they're so adorable.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I, I love them.

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They're so soft and comfy and I was a Squishmellow fan before I got into Pokemon, so that was perfect.

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as a segue,'cause it's like, oh, great.

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I love, anyway.

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And now they have Pokemon, so favorite is I have, I don't know what the size is exactly, but it's like the largest size of the Clefairy and remember going to the store and I took a picture.

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I put Clefairy in the front seat and I buckled her in and I sent a picture to Mr.

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Zigzagoon, and I was like.

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We've got a new family member, so she, she now hangs out and she's, ginormous.

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But I've got like, the big, the medium and the small of the Clefairy squish melow.

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So that's probably my favorite one, just for the, the, the funny moment of bringing her home and she takes up a whole car seat.

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So it's pretty, it's pretty ridiculous is

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He actually remind me of a friend I have.

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Who she has like this big Glaceon plushie.

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You know, she loves Eevee and she has this big Glaceon, I think it was like from a caravan or something like that, I can't remember exactly.

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And she always sends pictures of her kind of holding it almost like it's her own partner Pokemon.

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And I think that's kind of the cool part about seeing like the big plushies and the squish meows'cause.

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I don't know.

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It's just like having the size and it makes the Pokemon feel kind of real, almost like an actual partner, even though you know it's a stuffed animal or you know, whatever you want, stuffed plushy or whatever you wanna call it.

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it's almost like comfort in a way.

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You know?

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I.

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I definitely feel that way too.

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And with running the Cleffa Doing Stuff page, the focus is mostly on original content of, you know, my little Cleffa figurine in different places doing different things.

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And so because of that, I've got multiple of her.

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There's more than one and one always comes with me in my purse.

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So I always have a Cleffa on me.

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Oh.

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That we're always waiting for an opportunity because you never know when you're gonna be out and about and there's like, Hey, that, that would be great for a picture.

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Like it'd be cool to have her do that.

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So, I do feel like a kinship with her because she goes everywhere with me.

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I always have a Cleffa and reach, and so it's been really cute.

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I really treasure her, even though I've got multiple copies, you know, it's one Cleffa.

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Well, what I love is you kind of give Cleffa kind of its own personality, and I don't know if maybe it's yours mirroring into the Cleffa or you kind of make it to yourself.

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But like, how do you decide.

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What adventure Cleffa is gonna do next?

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Is it based on your own life, pure imagination or faint suggestions?

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Yeah, I would say it it is based a lot around my own life.

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you know, I work a regular full-time job and have other commitments.

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So, for me, a lot of the times it's just opportunity strikes and I'm like, oh, this is great.

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Now I do have more targeted things where I'm like, I know I want to do this with her, so I'll find the props to make it happen.

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but for the most part, Cleffa Doing stuff is kind of a.

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Reflection of what I'm doing in my own life at any given time, which is kind of cool in its own way too.

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It's like a, a little time capsule in Cleffa form of, of what I was doing.

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Now, since you know, you, you and Cleffa are kind of, I'll say hand in hand in a way, is there any kind particular moment or any picture you took that kind of felt especially personal for you?

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Really, I think just a lot of the, the early, Cleffa Doing Stuff, pictures are really, special to me because I was figuring things out and how do I wanna do this?

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So I think when I very first started taking pictures, those are always gonna be impactful.

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And then sometimes I share personal things from my life.

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like my grandma passed, and she had this like little bunny that she had wanted to be passed down and I had her take a picture with that.

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So sometimes I'll put like little sentimental things in there that really are, you know, personal.

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And then sometimes she'll just do goofy things.

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So I think they're all special to me in the own, in their own way, but like those, sentimental ones and then the early ones too are always gonna hold a special place in my heart.

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I mean, thinking about your grandmother with the rabbit, I'm sure some of those have probably resonated with the people who've observed your page or followed your page.

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what are, I guess, some that stuck out to you that you got maybe a response you didn't expect from the people, I on your page?

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So, it, it's interesting the responses that you get, from the, the viewers on different things and, and something kind of funny that just sort of relates to that is like sometimes the pictures that I'm like, oh, this is gonna do great, this is so cute.

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Like, they do fine, but they're not the response I expect.

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And then sometimes I'll.

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Snap a picture in like two seconds and be like, okay, like, I need something, but it's a really busy day and my life is hectic.

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And then that one will be the one that blows up and like everybody's going wild about.

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So, um, I think usually like that's the most unexpected where it's like, man, a lower effort post ended up, you know, getting great response.

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So, that's where I'm typically most taken aback, but I think.

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Really the, the place where I get a lot of engagement is when I have Cleffa Doing Stuff with other Pokemon figurines or plushies or things like that because then people get to talk about like, yeah, that's my favorite Pokemon, or, you know, here's my experience with it.

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So, I always get a good response, from those.

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And I'm interested to hear about like, the personal story and connection, even if Cleffa is, you know, not their favorite Pokemon.

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You know, I think as creators we all see that at some point, and I know I've definitely seen it to where I work so hard on something from the podcast and I'm like, oh, this is gonna hit hard.

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They're gonna feel this.

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And I get very little response.

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But when it's something I don't even try or I don't wanna say I don't try, it's a lot less effort that I had to just'cause I need to get something out.

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It resonates with them and I don't get it.

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It's like, do you want me not to try as hard?

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Like is that the secret?

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Like do I need to be more simplistic?

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I guess.

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Because it seems like based on your experience when you said something, five seconds that I guess they like the idea of something sim simple.

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They, they kind of resonated that with more than something I was polished.

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Yeah, I think so.

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I think it's like important to have a good mix.

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because I, I wanna deliver quality too.

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I don't want all my pictures to just be, you know, thrown together.

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Every once in a while it's gonna be more of an action shot, like out and about or something put together quick.

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But, I think sometimes it's the nature, like usually when it is a quick shot, it might be like, here's Cleffa with like one of her favorite foods.

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And like, everybody loves to talk about food.

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So

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Oh my gosh, yes.

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So, you know, that's a, that's an easier piece of content.

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But people go nuts'cause they love to like talk about, my favorite food or I like this brand, but I don't like that one.

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So it's fun to see the conversations that end up stemming from that.

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Now I want to kind of talk about your experience with Pokemon, because I guess more so recent because you know you're coming back as a fan.

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What's your way to kind of engage with a franchise?

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Are you more of a trading card?

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Do you do video games?

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Like how do you engage with Pokemon outside of the Cleffa page?

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Yeah, I would say, a few different ways.

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like I mentioned, with the TCG, that was really my first experience as an adult is making my TCG deck and playing that, the Clefairy deck is never going to win it like a regional or something, but it was good enough to beat some people locally, so I, I enjoyed doing that.

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Um, it's really fun to whoop people with, A gang of, Clefairy.

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I've got like four in the deck.

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So, you know, they're just throwing punches left and right.

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Um, So I, I do like that.

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I I live in a very small area, so people to play the TCG with is a challenge.

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so I would say that's, that's definitely what sparked my interest in it more so, you know, just day to day I do play Pokemon Go.

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which is is cool because my partner, despite being expert in Pokemon everything, he doesn't play Pokemon Go.

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So I am the expert for that in our house on that piece.

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and I think that's like really accessible even in a rural area.

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They've added a lot of stops now too.

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So there's things that I can do, even living where I do with Pokemon, go for something on like a daily basis.

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That's amazing.

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'cause it's kind of like I say, you kind of divide and conquer, you know?

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Even though you didn't grow up with Pokemon, I'm just guessing, he's probably more of the main series.

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Potentially.

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You've got Pokemon Go with you and then you've got also the TCG, and then he's like, I don't know how this works in Pokemon Go.

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You can kind of be the expert in your own world.

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It's like, oh, let me tell you about how you do this in Pokemon Go.

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This is my world.

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Yes.

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yes, exactly.

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I'm like it for, for once I actually know something.

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And I think it's cool, we also are a part of a business that does, 3D prints.

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And as part of that, my partner also, vens, like selling Pokemon cards at events.

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And so it's really cool to see people, you know, come up and they talk to him about Pokemon and engage, and they'll be like, this is my Pokemon Go character.

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And he'll be like, well.

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I don't play it, but she does.

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And then we get to talk about it too.

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So, um, so that's really fun to see people out and about in the world, you know, come up and talk about Pokemon at these events.

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So, I really enjoy that too.

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Since you know, you have a familiar Pokemon Go, I kind wanna dive into the experience.

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What made you wanna start playing?

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Yeah, so I first played it, when it actually very first came out, I was excited.

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I was like, oh, this is a cool idea.

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This is different.

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And I happened to be on vacation at the beach at that time.

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And so like, of course there was like.

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There's like a million Pokestops around.

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Yeah,

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of Pokemon.

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but then I got home and I was like, oh man, there is not as much in my area because again, I live rurally.

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they've really ramped up like the amount of stops and gyms since way back when it, it first started, but.

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that's when I initially got into it.

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And I think like I just again picked it up, within the past few years again, now that I see that there's like more stops, it's more accessible.

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I had go on some walks with my friend and, and we look for'em together.

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So that's.

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Been, really fun.

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So I think just like the fact of it being, you know, a unique thing at the time made me interested in it.

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So I always kind of knew it existed and I had played it here and there, but now that it's a lot more accessible in rural areas, I think that's really motivated me to want to play it more.

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you said the game has become more.

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Accessible for people who live in rural areas.

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I wanted to know if you can give you details, like are you getting more stops, more gyms, or is it more of, I guess the stuff they've added, like gameplay within Pokemon Go that's made the game more engaging for you living in a rural area?

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Yeah, so.

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I live in what, what I would call a one stoplight town.

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We have like one, we literally did just have one stoplight, so, um, we do not have many people, but I do live in the town and there are like plenty of gyms.

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There are plenty of stops like you do at the walk around.

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Obviously that's part of it.

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but I think I.

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nice that even in smaller places that there are still stops that you can go to.

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And they added the option to like schedule your raids.

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So like people could gather at a gym, you know, at a certain time, instead of just, you know, people passing by.

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So I haven't really got to participate in that, but I thought that's such a cool idea because in a place like this, you know, there's not always people in one area that are playing Pokemon Go.

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do you have like a huge amount of people who play or is just primarily you and your partner who play Pokemon Go?

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Yeah,

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Yeah, I would I would say like.

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my friend and I play Pokemon Go.

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I've added, you know, a few people in the community.

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Like when I do meet them at the vendor events, they're like, oh, can I add you so I can send gifts?

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So I've added some people like that.

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So it's mostly for me.

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people that I may not know.

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Super well, but you know, we, we send each other gifts and reap the rewards that way.

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So mostly it's just me.

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But, you know, No, I, I, uh, try to, others when I can.

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now you've talked a bit about the vendor events, you know, I think because you said your partner's the one who started it, right?

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And you just kind of took, not take along, but you kind of help'em.

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Is that kind of the dynamic?

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Yeah.

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partner, Mr.

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Zigzagoon, he's like co-owner of the business, and so I'm there to like, I'm, I'm there to help and to be moral support.

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Hey, that is such a huge role.

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That's important.

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'cause it gets tiring being a vendor sometimes, you know.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And especially at busy ones.

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And for him selling cards, like there's a lot more involved in that because prices fluctuate.

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He has to look things up and go through.

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It's not as simple as being like, yeah, I wanna buy this.

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Here's the money, buy.

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So it helps to have somebody nearby to handle the other pieces of it.

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But I get to, indulge in the excitement and, and eavesdrop a little bit too when he's talking Pokemon with somebody.

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Well, that's all I wanted to ask because you know, it's one thing to be a romantic partner, it's another thing to, you know, to live together.

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But then it's an entirely different thing to kind of run a business together.

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And I wanted to know, like, has running that business kind of helped y'all deepen y'all's connection more?

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Or how has it, I guess, changed it maybe that you didn't have before?

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That's a great question.

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I would say it challenges us, but in a positive way, I think challenge has such a negative connotation, but in this case, I think it pushes us to really come up with solutions to things.

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think about like, what could we promote?

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What products can we add?

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How can we better cater to the customer?

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So I think it really just helps.

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Us brainstorm and be creative in those ways.

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but honestly two like the way that he and I both face our Pokemon pages on Facebook, we kinda see those as a business too.

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you know, as far as just like analyzing, like what do people want, what's gonna be quality?

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Like, how do we best serve the people that, you know, wanna see this content?

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So, I think we always kind of have a little bit of that, business mindset because we wanna be professional and have everything nice and as, good of a, experience for the customer as possible.

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Whether that's like our fans on Facebook or that's people at our events.

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I guess since y'all both approached both y'all's pages as well as the personal business, y'all share as kind of the same mindset, has there anything that you've done from vending or maybe you've picked up from vending that's kind of helped you with your Cleffa page?

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I would say just me as an introvert, that's, that's what's hard sometimes running a page.

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Um, and when you're face to face with person, with a person, that can sometimes be a little intimidating, but it helps you ease into it.

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And I increase my knowledge.

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The more I learn about the business, the more I learn about Pokemon.

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And that makes me more confident in my page too.

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So I think really for me, it's just helping me to come out of my shell more and more over time.

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And, once you're in that, you really see it too, that like.

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Pokemon's just like a big community, whether it's people at the events or on the pages.

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So I feel comforted and that makes me feel more confident and like I belong here.

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Oh, I love that.

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Yeah, I belong here finally, from coming.

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Like I'm not too sure if I'm meant for this to where I belong here.

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It's kind of a very good trajectory.

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I love it.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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It feels good.

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It feels good to belong.

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And I know that like everybody in the community is supportive and especially like in the Facebook community too.

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I have contact with like a lot of the other face.

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