May 14, 2025
TRAINER'S EYE #157 - "Sewaddle Through The Bug Buzz" ft. PokeJungle
What does it take to run one of the longest-standing Pokémon fan sites online? PokeJungle is a fan-driven Pokémon news site that began in 2003 and rose to popularity during the Generation 5 era. Starting with Neopets guilds to breaking major Pokémon game updates, PokeJungle shares how his blog evolved alongside the Pokémon community. PokeJungle dives into the emotional impact of Pokémon Crystal, what made Pokemon Diamond & Pearl fall flat, and why Pokemon Black & White stands out as a...
What does it take to run one of the longest-standing Pokémon fan sites online?
PokeJungle is a fan-driven Pokémon news site that began in 2003 and rose to popularity during the Generation 5 era. Starting with Neopets guilds to breaking major Pokémon game updates, PokeJungle shares how his blog evolved alongside the Pokémon community.
PokeJungle dives into the emotional impact of Pokémon Crystal, what made Pokemon Diamond & Pearl fall flat, and why Pokemon Black & White stands out as a storytelling high point. You’ll also hear about his deep appreciation for both Bug-type and Grass-type Pokémon.
Whether you’re a veteran Pokémon Trainer, an aspiring fan site creator, or curious about the history of online Pokémon fandom, this episode offers a nostalgic and insightful look behind the scenes of one of the community’s most trusted voices.
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My name is Poka Jungle, and this is my Pokemon story.
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Welcome to as the Pokeball Turns, Where we interview people about their experience with Pokemon.
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name is David Hernandez.
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I'm joined by the webmaster of Poke Jungle, a fan run Pokemon News and content site established all the way back in 2003.
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Poke Jungle, welcome to as the Pokemon Turns.
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Thank you for coming onto the podcast.
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Yeah.
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Thanks so much for having me.
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I really appreciate it, and I'm excited to be here.
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Likewise and know, when we just say 2003, that's a long time.
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You've seen this community evolve through so many eras, from Hoennn to Sinnoh to Alola to Scarlet Violet so many times.
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wanna start off with this question.
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Start, what's one era or moment you wish you could relive in Pokemon?
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honestly, I would like to go back to.
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gen three I guess that was kind of a magical time for me.
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I just loved, getting the upgrade to the, game Boy Advanced Graphics and then also having the internet become more ubiquitous and, you know, the community was growing larger online.
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So it was just a really fun time in my opinion.
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And, definitely, you know, a classic era.
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And that's also the time when you started your website too, right?
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If I'm not mistaken, the timeframe.
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Yeah, very, very baby PokeJungle website.
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it was, you know, a very amateur, practice, type of, situation.
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But, there are roots way back, to 2003.
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you know, you said it was growing, you know, Pokemon's growing online.
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from your perspective, what did that growth feel like?
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Was it excitement?
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Was it chaos?
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Was it pressure for you?
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to me, and I guess this is mainly coming from the point of view of the websites that I enjoyed going to and the interests that I had, but I feel like there was a lot of, different Pokemon forums that, conversations were taking place in and discussions were being had.
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And then also there was just a huge growth of Pokemon fan sites like my own.
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so you had basically poke anything, you know, like you had, Pokemon Safari, Pokemon Ocean, like any, any type of, you know, location people were like trying to, make websites out of.
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And I really loved seeing the creativity.
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Of other people and how they were kind of taking their passion for Pokemon and making a little place for themselves online.
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Now, I know your site originally was, I guess, inspired by Neopets that led to what we know today as PokeJungle What did that creative spark feel like for you when you decided just to jump in and start this website?
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You certainly did your homework.
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Um.
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I try.
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Thank you.
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Um, yeah, so just going slightly back to the Neopets reference, I don't know if anyone else, played Neopets, but there would be guilds you were in and guilds often made offsite websites for themselves, for their members.
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And honestly, I think that was my first exposure to making a website like on geo cities, and kind of some of those early free web hosts.
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And so I was like, wow, I wanna make one of those.
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So like my first, foray into, uh, building a website was like all the content was just centered because I didn't know how to make sidebars or anything.
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So it was just like centered content down, the webpage.
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And that's kind of like what got me into it.
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but also just seeing the fan sites that other people were making for Pokemon, you know, maybe a year later.
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I think.
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Made me want to create something that was a little bit more complex.
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so that was probably, I guess, a spark.
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Now I know that, you know, you talked about how each site was kind of a representation, it was a creativity of the web post themselves,
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Mm-hmm.
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I know you have a higher preference for the forums.
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What do you miss about, I guess those slower pace places compared to now we have Discord and Facebook and everything.
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Yeah, so I think forums were always, more special for me, I guess, because I liked the way that you could have a conversation and you know, like when you're in Discord, things are just often, you know, messages if you're in a busy, busier server, messages are just, you know, flying and conversations are kind of like whatever's being talked about at the moment.
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whereas forums are so much more structured, and we still have things like Reddit, social media, that that is more structured.
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but I think with social media and Discord, you have like one profile that is tied to you and you're in a lot of different communities and you're kind of exposed to the whole platform.
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Whereas forums were a place that was kind of carved out on the internet and you had that account for that website and it was very much more focused on the community that was there and you didn't necessarily have the ability to like, be distracted, by whatever else is trending or, you know, like, whatever, whatever outside maybe your interest.
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Was so, it felt a lot more close and tight knit to me.
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Um, I guess that's, yeah, that's just my take on it.
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So I've always enjoyed that kind of feeling,
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Before we dive more into PokeJungle, I know we kind of went off the deep end.
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I wanna take it a step back.
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Can you remember, like what was your first experience with Pokemon?
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I can't pinpoint like a, a single moment, but I definitely grew up during the Pokemon craze, so.
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I was in elementary school, and I think like the whole neighborhood, would either be trading cards, you know, like if the kids were together, we'd, you know, have cards out or, um, there'd be discussions about like what the latest episode on TV was and I didn't have a Game Boy, or an N 64 later.
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So I was always super happy when I would like go over to a friend's house and they would let me borrow, their, you know, handheld and I could play like Pokemon Red or yellow.
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so that was always a highlight to me and I always kind of like, oh my gosh, I hope one day I can, you know, have my own game boy to, um, be able to play.
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it was almost a longing, to be able to play Pokemon, And of course I did have cards, um, but I, I missed out on some of the video game experience, when it first launched.
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So, you know, you'd go to these friends places, y'all would, that would be your only experience, I guess, for the Pokemon Games.
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It sounds like the Pokemon Anime was how you experienced it at home.
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Is that kind of how it worked out?
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Yeah, I would say the cards and the anime, I would always be trying, I have three younger sisters and I'd always be trying to get them to like, oh, you know, like, let's try having a Pokemon battle or something, you know, like with the cards.
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but.
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They were, they were not as enthused about the franchise as I was.
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Oh, really?
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So it was just kind of you and your own little world?
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Right.
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A little bit.
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Yeah, I think that's fair.
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What did you enjoy, I guess, about Pokemon?
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Because you didn't have that media exposure.
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Like what was it about the Pokemon world that you, I guess, was it just the fandom or the craze or was there more to it?
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I've always been into like.
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Creatures I love, like, as a kid, especially, like, I would love just going out into the woods and like hunting for bugs or like trying to find snakes and stuff.
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So to me the, the series was like kind of very similar to that.
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Like it had creatures that I enjoyed and then also I am just that type of person who, you know, I saw kind of my own hobbies in the real world as you know, being represented and trying to collect all these creatures spread throughout the world.
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Wow, that's kind of interesting.
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'cause I used to collect bugs too.
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I used to do Rollie pullies
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Oh,
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like, I would get Rollie pullies from my school and my house and anywhere I could find them, I put'em in a little Jack of lantern and I would feed them like leaves off my little net.
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We had next to the fence, uh, where I, my backyard and I would just feed'em.
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It was just kind of a little world to have, you know.
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that is super cute.
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I, I am still a bug catcher, so I actually do have an isopod
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Ooh.
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Also known as Rollie Pollies.
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So yeah, I have powder oranges, and I have them in a little, you know, terrarium feed'em dead leaves as well.
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See, I've always been tempted to start it and I'm like, I really kind of want to just recollect them.
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But the problem was that I accidentally, the lantern didn't have a filter and one time it stormed really bad.
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Oh,
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yeah, you can imagine, you
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I,
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kind of put two and two together, but I'm like, I really kind of just wanna see'em'cause it's just kind of cool to watch, you know?
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It's
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mm-hmm.
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watching, except it's with the really pulleys, you know?
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So you know, you were already starting to get in Val, the franchise, I guess, what was your first experience with the games
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I finally did get a Game Boy Advance.
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But I didn't start with the Game Boy Advance Games.
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I actually got a copy of Crystal, and this, I believe this was before Gen three had actually launched.
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So crystal was basically the latest game that had come out and I finally got it and it was honestly everything I was hoping it would be.
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It lived up to your expectations.
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Yeah.
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And really to this day, I think Crystal has some of the best, Sprite animations and stuff.
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just some really, really classic.
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things, and this is a little bit off topic, but I really hated emerald's Sprite animations.
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I was disappointed that the animations left when, you know, Ruby and Sapphire were released.
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but then emerald's animations were just like so much of like the bouncing and stretching, whereas Crystal, had much more customized, animations for the Pokemon.
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So super disappointing to me, but.
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Now, when you finally had your own game, did it kind of feel like you were connected to the Pokemon world in a different way?
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Like you didn't have to go to your friends anymore?
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Yeah, I do feel like that I had also moved.
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so I grew up my house was kind of like in a forest, um, in a rural area.
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So it was suddenly also harder to like just see neighborhood kids and like.
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trade Pokemon.
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So I actually, I think that, may have pushed me in the direction of, you know, more time, uh, with the online Pokemon community just because it's like, there wasn't, you know, like a, my neighbor was, you know, two miles away.
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So,
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A little bit of a hike.
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yeah.
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stuck with gen two.
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Did, when did you progress into gen three In the further later generations.
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I think because I had my Game Boy Advance.
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I think I bought, yeah, I definitely bought it on release when Gen three was released.
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'cause actually like talking about it, I remember pre-ordering it at Target and the pre-order thing was a holographic like metal coin.
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sadly I was a little bit disappointed'cause I, there was like.
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Groudon and Kyogre, and I got the Kyogre one, but I really wanted the Groudon one, so, maybe that's why I remember it so well.
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It's a bad memory.
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It's, well, not a bad memory.
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It's like I didn't get what I really wanted.
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But like now as an adult, like, I'm like, well, it's still cool that I have, I still have it somewhere, so,
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you do?
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Now around Gen three is kind of when you started the PokeJungle, you know, you got people websites all over the place.
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Was it difficult for you to kind of start a site at that point?
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Or were you kind of very naturally gifted in trying to start a web post or whatever?
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I.
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I don't, I don't know if I would say like I was super gifted, but, I feel like I had a good community, because on certain Pokemon forums there were groups of like people who had fan sites and stuff, and so like, there was people who would help if you had questions or like offer critiques.
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so there was like kind of a group of us that would, work together and share knowledge and, you know, sometimes fight, sometimes a little bit of drama, but.
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I mean, that's what happens in every community, right?
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Yeah,
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when it came to just seeing how the sites continue to grow and now, you know, I guess they've started to decrease.
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How has it been to see kinda a lot of the communities fade away in time and be left with what it is.
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I feel like it kind of makes sense'cause I feel like a lot of people do, grow up and have their interests change.
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So it kind of makes sense that there's not gonna be a lot of websites that run.
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10, 15, 20 years.
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but on the other hand, it's a little bit sad not to see as many new, websites try to come up because I feel like there are, a lot of people who were my age, you know, and interested in Pokemon and creating websites.
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But it doesn't seem like, there's as many people who necessarily want to do that, and.
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I may be speaking out of ignorance because I'm not as involved, um, with, I don't, I don't have like a community of like, people who love to make websites, on a Pokemon forum, like back in the day.
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So I may be totally ignorant, so I'm not meaning to offend anyone who does have a website that I don't know about.
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but from my impressions online, it just doesn't seem like there's that much passion to like start small fan sites.
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And this is actually beyond just Pokemon too.
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I wish when I searched Google, I would find different stuff.
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I wish that I would find more content that's written by fans of a series or something, versus like, I just feel like there's so much kind of slap out there where you read three paragraphs, to get nothing.
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Like, I don't know if you know what I'm talking about, but you know, like some video game websites, you read three paragraphs and it's like, okay.
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the, the headline has not been addressed yet.
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whereas I feel like people who are passionate about a topic, really put a lot of effort in.
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so that's what makes, projects like, you know, your podcast and also websites and newsletters so important, because they're, the way that they handle content and the topic is different, I feel like.
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I see it a lot whenever I scroll the web.
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Especially doing this podcast just looking for guests.
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I wanna say Pokemon's maybe become so hyper-focused and maybe this is beyond Pokemon, like you said, it's become so hyper-focused on just video
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Mm-hmm.
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the only way people feel like they can express themselves.
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Mm-hmm.
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And you know, yes, I understand video is king, but it's not the only way to engage people.
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like you said, you know, bring back the discussions to where you can write stuff about Pokemon.
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You don't see that much anymore.
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You don't see, like the fan think it's very, I don't wanna say they're in the.
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They're kind of niche.
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You have to kind of go, really dig in deep now to kind of find it where I feel like maybe back when we were growing up, it was more prevalent.
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I think you could find it a lot more easier compared to nowadays.
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Mm-hmm.
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No, I totally agree.
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And actually that's a really good point.
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I didn't even mention video when I was talking about that'cause
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I
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almost feel like it's a separate category.
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In a way, I do make videos occasionally, um, particularly like for merchandise.
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but I'm just so not passionate about it, so it's hard for me to like, kind of make stuff in that space.
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I'm, I have a lot more fun like using, video editing apps to make like shorts and stuff.
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'cause it's just, it's easy and you can like, you know, throw something together.
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that looks kind of cool.
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But, I feel like the creation scene has definitely gone in the video direction, which I don't have anything against necessarily, but it just makes me mourn, I guess, a little bit for the older, like tech space, creation.
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Now, you know, we've talked about how a lot of communities faded away.
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What kept you going, I guess, to keep PokeJungle running, even when other, you'd see some of your fellow hosts, web hosts, like disappear and move on to the sunset.
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There was a time I did take a break, I think it was like for a year.
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and that was around the time of HeartGold and Soul Silver's pre-release lead up.
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and at that time I was just really struggling, with a lot of stress.
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And so I can definitely empathize with people who ultimately, you know, decided not to, continue their website or project because sometimes, you know, real life does have to take, priority over this stuff and sometimes it can just turn into stress.
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even for me, like I have a lot of, unopened stuff.
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don't call me a hoarder, but, well, I don't know.
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I have a room full of Pokemon stuff and it's supposed to be a studio, but like, I haven't, I, I gotta do some stuff and it's like.
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right now it probably does look like a hoarder's room.
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Um,'cause I gotta organize everything and that's been like a huge thing that I don't wanna do.
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But anyway, so back to the topic, like I definitely, empathize with people who have, not been able to continue and stuff, but, it is a little bit sad to see some of these projects fold.
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but what's kept me going is kind of my interest in covering news.
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I like the feeling of like, trying to get, different stories and news out that I think fans are going to enjoy and I try to give context about it.
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cause I know some sites, you know, Serebii is obviously extremely popular, extremely well run website.
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but their news section is usually just like a paragraph or two about news.
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So like when I'm doing stuff, like I want to give a little bit more context If there's, you know, something related, I wanna like bring it up and have a little bit longer, articles when news is shared.
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So just like being able to kind of cover news has really been my passion to be honest.
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Now when it comes to running PokeJungle, have you always felt like you were a fan or do you feel like your relationship with Pokemon has changed at times?
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I don't really work directly with the brand too often.
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I feel like there might be different feelings from, um.
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I don't know, video creators, who get invited to events and stuff, and have a stronger relationship with actual company.
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but for me, I really am just a fan still.
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Well, I mean, there's so much news that comes in.
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I'm impressed that you can keep up with it all.
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So that's why I'm like, uh, does this sometimes feel like it's work, sometimes, like having to do all that stuff?
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Or do you just enjoy like just bringing the news to the people?
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Yeah, I, I mean, sometimes it does feel like work.
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to be honest, like I gotta find a better way.
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Some of these, one of the things you have to consider when you're doing like, web stuff as like, optimization for images.
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recently I was working on a story about black bolt, white flare TCG set And I don't usually cover TCG news, but I am a super big, gen five fan.
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So having a set that includes, um, illustration rares or secret illustration rares for every single.
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Pokemon from Unova was big for me, so I wanted to spotlight that on my website, but like, grabbing images and then like resizing them to certain, dimensions that are gonna get like a smaller, file size.
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And then I usually use a tool like, tiny PMG, to compress those down.
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Like it just, like the article honestly, I think took an hour just to put up.
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and I'm sure there's a faster way, so like I gotta work on my workflow, but, sometimes it's just like, I wish I could just like snap my fingers and have something more put together.
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but I don't wanna, use like AI for content or anything, so I'm doing everything by hand.
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No, I understand the exactly how I feel because I don't know if people know this.
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I used Photoshop 2016
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Hmm.
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Hmm.
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there's so many limitations I have on that tool that I
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Mm-hmm.
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But it does what I need it to do.
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It's just those small details.
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I think the best example is whenever I need to bend an object, some reason, the one I have does not allow me to bend objects.
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So I have to go to like an online site to bend an object, download it, re-upload it back onto my, uh, canvas of what I'm doing.
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