"Finding My Voice Through Dragonite's Roost" ft. Andrew Arboe | TRAINER'S EYE #193

Andrew Arboe 0:00

my name is Andrew Arboe, and this is my Pokemon story. Dragonite is best dragon Pokemon, by the way

David Hernandez 0:44

Welcome to As the Pokeball Turns, where every trainer has a story. I'm David Hernandez, and I'm joined by Andrew Arbo, a self-advocate living with autism. He travels his community speaking about autism in major areas like special education, transportation, transitioning to adulthood, and employment. Andrew, welcome to As the Pokeball Turns. How are you doing?

Andrew Arboe 1:05

I'm doing, I'm doing really good. I'm pretty confident. The coffee should settle down I'm actually very used to drinking coffee in the evening time. I work in direct care, so I always do the three PM to the nine PM coffee. So I'm very used to this. So this is normal me

David Hernandez 1:20

Well, I wanna start with a fun question before we dive into anything Pokemon related or anything, I guess, more about your journey. For those who don't know, Dragonite's your favorite Pokemon, and it can fly around the world in just 16 hours. And my question is this: If Dragonite showed up tomorrow and offered you a ride anywhere in the world, where would you go first, and what are you doing when you get there?

Andrew Arboe 1:41

Ah, very good one. There could be so many different things. if I could fly every- everywhere I could go, I mean, one would be actually Japan. That would be a really good one. I don't wanna sound stereotypical, the, the chill gamer, but I've always wanted to travel Japan or if the op- opportunity comes up and if it makes sense financially, like that would be something I would love to go to. Not because of all the gaming, but you know, like Japan has all that, culture to feel, like the blossom trees, the deer. Like you could literally pet deer over there. Like there's a lot more to Japan than just electronics, so I would like to kinda see around their horizons. And again, like you said, Dragonite will get me there, and it will definitely be a lot more cost efficient. I just have to get yen.

David Hernandez 2:25

money's always the issue, right, when it comes to traveling. But you got a Dragonite flying you around, though, so you can't really be too bad on that one

Andrew Arboe 2:30

And he can pack a punch too. Like he has like the kindest, look, but when Dragonite needs to, he can still pack a punch. Dragonite may not be a Garchomp or a Salamence or any other of the dragons, but again, Dragonite can handle most things. Just give it like a steel move because of fairies.

David Hernandez 2:48

Now, obviously Dragonite's your favorite Pokemon. Where does your journey with Pokemon start? Like, what's your first experience with the franchise?

Andrew Arboe 2:54

I always show this off in my jobs and especially, but I was there from like late 90s, like very beginning, like Yellow was my game. And I kept, I kept all my Pokemon games, which was a blessing in disguise, knowing that years later I'd be a retro gaming collector. I love, could collect Japanese role-playing games, and some of the games, oh gosh, definitely pricey. Like I actually got the box of both Yellow and Crystal. And after that, I'm good. Knowing the pricings of that and I'm always sympathetic to people that wanna buy the physical like copies of the games, but I do not blame them at all if they buy reproductions. Provided there's no glitches like I feel for them. But I started with the original games. I saw the anime. I did a little of the cards, but I've always been more into like video games. I briefly through the anime. I saw all the first three movies on the big screen, so I was very much into that and I've been like studying like throughout, all my time playing Pokemon, like Pokemon being this like comfort... I don't wanna say comfort food, that sounds like bad, but it's like Pokemon was always there. It was like a good starting point in my gaming. As I advanced, like my taste kinda changes all of them. But Pokemon, especially retro, for me like retro like Game Boy to 3DS for Pokemon, like that's always kinda been there for me

David Hernandez 4:10

You highlight how the games are what you gravitate towards. You mentioned all three, but games specifically kind of is what you honed in on. What is it about the games, specifically Pokemon, that engrossed you into the franchise so much that you still like it to this day? Like, what do you enjoy about the Pokemon games?

Andrew Arboe 4:24

Really good one. There's like, again, they always have addictive, like you could do so many different things. That's the reasons like... I should probably mention my favorite, Black and White 2. Like I played White 2. I actually played Black 2 back in 2012, and I remember that because I got a Ultra, I don't wanna say Ultra Rare, but a rare DS game at that same day, Soul Silver or White the Hunter Complete. It was like $12, and that game goes for like 200, 300 more dollars, God forbid. So I remembered for that occasion, I enjoyed the games. But going back to the main thing, like Gens 4 and 5 are my favorites because it was just a beautiful time for the Pokemon at that time. Like a new handheld system, new like Wi-Fi features like the Global Trade Station. Like I was breathing as like a 12, this 13-year-old, I like loved that. I loved the idea of trading all around the world. It's kinda like opening like new doors for me, and I was trying to steal, I was like trying to steal my neighbor's Wi-Fi. I lived in these apartments. Like, I was like literally DS right on the wall just trying to, to g- get that, get whatever Pokemon I can before I convinced my dad to go buy a, a Wi-Fi router during that time. And I did move afterwards and that, and he did buy an actual router that kinda helped out. But the DS games just had all this different content and I think deep down and without me going to like, like as you know, like I did mention, autism, I don't wanna go into the cliche like, hey, like it's always been a constant or it sets up a routines, but I guess you could say Pokemon had this routine. They could go through the gyms, you explore Pokemon, and I feel like the games do a good job, especially the, the earlier ones do a good job of telling you of like you have to seek out Pokemon. Go into this grass, find whatever Pokemon, and I really just appreciate all the different features like the DS, like you have the contests or at least the Diamond and Pearl, their contest. You also have the underground. They have the online features. Like you actually have a lot more. And then Black and White 2, you have the Hollywood kind of movie like mini games, and those games especially have so much going on in those that it was really hard, it was hard not to get addicted to that because I put like 900 hour, 900, uh, hours into, Diamond just because it was that iconic

David Hernandez 6:40

So you really love playing Diamond a lot. 900 hours is a long time

Andrew Arboe 6:43

It was, uh, also because of the Wi-Fi and trading, battling, but mostly the GTS, and also just EV training. I used to do EV training up till Gen 6. Like, I don't wanna sound like a Pokemon boomer because I have played the Switch games, and I think they just put a little more budget into the Switch and Switch 2 games, hopefully they'll figure it out that putting a little budget isn't a bad thing. Not in visuals, like, I don't want Pokemon to be AI, like AI'd or, or like uses like identity. But, you know, if I could put more money into my brand, like I'm pretty sure a billion-dollar companies can do the same thing or something like that. Just put a little more spice to it.

David Hernandez 7:21

When you mentioned the Wi-Fi specifically, you talked about the GTS, the Wi-Fi battling. Why was the Wi-Fi so revolutionary for you during that time period? Like, take us back, like what made that such an addictive feature for you?

Andrew Arboe 7:32

Just the idea of like connecting people from all over the world that you could get a Japanese Pokemon as like a kid, and I grew up in mostly Nintendo, so I was kind of a Nintendo fanboy back when I was growing up. Like I had a PlayStation, Well, still have a PlayStation 2, but it's like I've always was for Nintendo. Like, I actually got my DS and the Wii at the same time. Like, I was like a teenager during those years. Like seeing Wi-Fi and like, "Oh, wow, this is kind of cool." And all, just all the ways you different connect, and I also had friends where I played the DS games, and also during that time, it was kind of like that weird period where Pokemon wasn't like... It was always pretty big, but you know, it kind of had that point where it's like used to have anxieties of like, Am I too old to playing Pokemon?" Like now you look at now and years later and after realizes like it's kind of one of those things no one kind of gives a crap, but it's just kind of teenagers kind of like that like reflective like that, I don't wanna say existential, like, Like you're not sure if you're actually supposed to be playing it, if that makes sense. So I've always was kept to myself.

David Hernandez 8:35

So you had to keep the side of Pokemon hidden from you it sounds like. Did you

Andrew Arboe 8:39

Yeah,

David Hernandez 8:39

any friends you could play Pokemon with?

Andrew Arboe 8:41

Oh yeah, I had a couple friends and I think I gained more games and also got encouragement in one of my schools. I actually wrote a few video game reviews, and I got and showed them this. I actually got writing credit for it. They're like, "You know what? This is cool. Keep it up." cause I grew up in a time where all the internet critics like, Angry Video Game Nerd, Nostalgia Critic, I kinda grew up with that. James Rolfe is, pretty cool. still the OG in that regard. So it's like expressing yourself, the idea of expressing yourself, and I think that's always been one of those key things of Pokemon when you look at the developmental materials. like the published materials, like Pokemon's about communication and, getting interested in the world

David Hernandez 9:18

What did Pokemon offer you that other games didn't?

Andrew Arboe 9:21

It's weird because I kinda see it as like the most basic JRPG because after this, this kinda got me into the idea of like, no, turn-based combat's really nice. And then I played Final Fantasy afterwards, and then moved my way to like the other, I don't wanna say niche, but kinda like both popular and niche. Like I played, Persona, Shin Megami Tensei. I'm a huge NieR person. Like I've actually met Yoko Taro in person. I had him sign my NieR copy, and I've gone to a couple, like one or two of the concerts, or one, but I'm going to the Boston one later this year. So I kinda diversified my JRPGs, but Pokemon was the one that got me interested in the JRPG kind of landscape. It's pretty basic. It's like a basic like turn-based, like pretty simple, especially the Yellow game. So it's just kinda just the imagination and like the game's kind of like, now that I'm, like now that I've actually think about it, it's kinda like it started seeds of me actually like taking interest in things. But I was still pretty reserved. I had to kind of grow and get myself more interested out there. But it's just kinda knowing that there's a whole world out there, you just discovering these things, and then you go out there and actually interact with that, and it's, you know, like life's kinda more enriched that way

David Hernandez 10:29

Now, out of every Pokemon, you chose Dragonite. How did Dragonite become your favorite Pokemon? Like, what's the story behind that?

Andrew Arboe 10:35

Oh, I have actually a bunch of favorite Pokemon, and one of my, when I was growing up in my teenage years was Darkrai because of that edgy face.

David Hernandez 10:42

Right.

Andrew Arboe 10:43

Like, it did- the movie was also really good. I do dislike the title, The Rise of Darkrai. That's such a red herring when you know what actually happens in the, in the 10th movie. Like, I've always disliked the title. I always felt that, um... What was it called? I actually got into Serebii when I discovered Serebii and it had all this different content of Pokemon. I had no idea you could look at the movie screenshots. I'm like, "Oh, wow." I basically feel like I'm cheating before these things actually get localized. Like, they had, like, screenshots, all these different features, all the anime episode pictures. Like, Serebii is, like, one of the OG Pokemon websites. So discovering that was like, oof. And then so I always got Darkrai as like the edge one. It just still looks really cool. Still looks really cool. I've always liked that. I've also been a big into Lucario, and actually, technically, if it wasn't Dragonite, Rowlet would be my favorite because I use the Rowlet memes to my heart's content, like the actually Rowlet face, like that's a-amazing. like I always use Raltith faces at my school job, in case I need to do some specific stuff. So people know I'm excited doing professional development where I have pictures of Rowlet all over. but with Dragonite, I was playing Pokemon ZA. That game did play. I do give certain things a try. I want people to think I'm a Pokemon boomer. Like again, Gen Five is my favorite. Gen One Pokemon is cool, but I do like Gen Five a bit more. Gen Four being a close second. But I was playing last year Pokemon Legends Z-A. I I actually played and traded Pokemon, helped out in one of my jobs because I actually got in there like, "That would be cool trade Pokemon." So I actually caught a Dragonite from my team. I named it the French word for sky. I have a German Shepherd in real life, um, Sky the Puppy. He's my, mascot on my page. So I named him that, and I just got into that And I was realizing I just like the... And like that Dragonite just has that cute face, not because of, uh, Ash's Dragonite when he actually gets it, but it's like he has a kind, kind approach, he's pretty helpful. And when he needs to be tough, he can be. And I've always felt like that's pretty reflective. Like I see myself as pretty resilient. Like I can be really soft, but when I really need to to my values, like I wanna be able to stick to it, like do my own thing. Like I could probably go into like my autism brand. Like I like to be specific. Like there can be a lot of agreements, disagreements in that community, like autism politics. Like real life definitely has its suck, sucky moments, but I wanted to be there as like a Dragonite and stand true to my values and connect to other autistic people, professionals especially. But it's like be able to kind of use my voice and get out there. And I'm also a workaholic and a drivingaholic. I'm probably just made up that latter word. I love to travel. I think I have Pokemon to blame for that because it's like, I kind of see speaking engagements as like the next Pokemon. It's kind of like I wanna be able to get these different experiences, like capture these different experiences I wanna speak at this organization. I wanna do this. I wanted to stop by this landmark because also on the way there, I love to explore different arcades, retro gaming stores. So it's like I like to, uh, do different experiences and really kind of go there, like play my gaming podcast, listen to both, uh, NieR and, uh, Equix Gear Expedition 33 soundtracks as I drive. Gosh, I love the video game soundtracks. So, so cool

David Hernandez 14:01

Now you've described Dragonite as both soft and with tremendous power, and you also kind of described yourself in the same way. Do you see yourself in Dragonite? Is that kind of the combination, the,

Andrew Arboe 14:10

Yeah, but I don't wanna hu- I, but I will, I would definitely wanna be humble because there's a few moments where I'm gonna have to work towards that to kinda build it. Like I built a lot of resilience over the years. So I don't want to be completely biased, as awesome as it is to have Dragonite's actual strength, but

David Hernandez 14:28

Well, in what ways have you built resilience? Let's

Andrew Arboe 14:30

yeah, just kinda like keep learning. I like to keep learning about things. Like it took me several years to figure out I wanna be a vocational rehab specialist. Like I have an interest in special ed, and they call it, the transitional services where like people age out from high school into like adulthood, and that could look so different for everyone, like education, employment, like social spaces like... it kinda combines with like device man. So I wanna kinda combine both of those, and I've always have done public speak on transportation, but I'm known as the driving guy, the guy that talks about driver awareness and autism.

David Hernandez 15:03

you know, you mentioned how Black and White 2 are your favorite games. What is it specifically about those specific games that stick out to you the most?

Andrew Arboe 15:10

Yeah, so Gen 4, when I played White 2, it was like I played Black 2 years before. I got White 2 back in 2019. It was during the summer. I got it for $50, which probably was the best time to get that, especially now seeing the prices and now it's like 200-ish. I'll probably get more upgraded prices as I'm about to go to, Retro World Expo in Hartford, Connecticut. But I played that, and it was right after I k- I don't wanna say I got burnt out. I got a little burnt out from Pokemon from Ultra Moon, I actually rebought Ultra Moon earlier this year because I got kind of burnt out. I was playing all these different games. I got exposed to different games like Nioh Armada, Horizon Zero Dawn, Persona 5. Like, 2017 was a crazy year for gaming, and I was also was growing up. I was kinda growing up in terms of gaming taste, so it like exhausted me and Pokemon had those, bumps during the Switch era with, Sword and Shield, Scarlet and Violet. So like Sword, like Sword was, it was playable. Like I like the wild area where it was. I mean, they could have did that. Like they could have made that tower an explorable area, by the way. That one tower, that poor tower, they could have squeezed in a little bit of money for that. And then getting in the game story was kind of half-baked, which is kind of a shame. But it was missing something. I played White 2 and I was like, oh, wow. I suddenly realized how much, I don't want to say people are missing out, but just all those like extra moves that I feel like Game Freak and the Pokemon company didn't have to do, but they did. Like it was so compacted, it was crazy. Like I went to Long Island Retro Gaming Expo. I ran into a group, Sky Arrow, and they did a Pokemon White 2, Black 2 Fun Fest missions. They get a group of people, do these events, try to get these rare medals and get like a Steelix. And I thought that was a cool thing. But I feel like that's like a testament. The fact that this game's had almost everything. It had everything. The DS games, you know, are like content filled. Like it's incredible. It's incredible how much that they put in there. Like you could still get so much out of that.

David Hernandez 17:11

Well, you go back and forth between comparing the old games to the newer games. Are there aspects of the older Pokemon games you've appreciated more as an adult than you did growing up?

Andrew Arboe 17:23

I kind of appreciate the features that they keep taking out that they should keep in. Like, you know, like the contest, like there's hardly any contest there.

David Hernandez 17:30

Oh,

Andrew Arboe 17:30

the Hollywood, the mini games from, from that one where you kind of like act out scenes, like do different like

David Hernandez 17:36

Yeah, it

Andrew Arboe 17:36

moves for dialogue

David Hernandez 17:38

one with the poison type gym leader. It was like the studios, Pokestar Studios I think it was

Andrew Arboe 17:42

Yes. Yes. Yep. Poke Star. Yep. And like those things like the different caves and you have like different towns like the newer games still have that, but I feel like I don't wanna say I don't wanna sound like a Pokemon boomer when I already am because I did have fun. And made a story when I was playing Scarlet, because of how glitchy those games were. Oh gosh, how glitchy those games are. I actually ran into some weird stuff playing those games. I had to come up with a story of, you know what happened in those games? Time travel. Time travel was messing everything up. That time travel is the reason why it is so glitchy, why your trainer's eyes pop out when you go up that ladder, or why Pokemon's heads are like on these walls. You just see this casual Pokemon just like staring at you. I know some people can blow things out of proportion, but a lot of the glitches and things that come up was very true. it was really obvious they needed more time. Like, I feel like at some point having just that visual like appear, like making sure it looks decent and I played a lot of different games, But I feel like sometimes they should've did the mountains a lot better because you just g- it's so telling. It's like, "Oh, Jesus Christ." It's like one of the things that you have to mention in the back of your head as you play. Like the core gameplay itself was still fun, but Again, if I can sprinkle money into like my brand to like do materials, like pay for my own conferences, like going to pay for hotels, I'm pretty sure the type of company could squeeze pr- a bit more money into budgeting, like kinda take that approach, but that's probably because I played a lot of other games that kinda gives me that nuance of like, okay, what is Pokemon doing of like doing different stuff or how are they engaging the storylines? Again, I don't wanna sound like a boomer because there's always debates on how much money or who, who should do this or what, or what directors people blame and whatnot.

David Hernandez 19:29

You don't wanna be like, "Back in my day, we needed to use eight HMs, and we had to walk some

Andrew Arboe 19:33

walls." Mm, yeah, but, but I do feel like they-- I feel like they, the games like should at least add a bit more. Like there's some areas I swear in Sword and Shield that there should have been areas, like in the wild area. Like, do you see that one tower? Why

David Hernandez 19:48

guess

Andrew Arboe 19:48

not use that as like a little tiny area? It would do that little discovery that they didn't have to do, but they could have like...

David Hernandez 19:55

add more what? Like, are you looking for more, like,

Andrew Arboe 19:58

I don't-- Maybe

David Hernandez 19:59

more people? Like, what are you kind of leaning towards?

Andrew Arboe 20:02

like, I guess stuff to do, like after you do the Pokedex or you do what you kinda do, like there's kinda not much unless you do like the Wi-Fi stuff. Like, you know, like the side stuff, like Pokestars, the contests, the underground in Diamond and Pearl. Like those like little things that spices it up. Like even the 3DS games like-- And like on like the s- s- Ruby and Sapphire remakes, like they have you fly on Latios or Latias. But it's like those like little things that kinda add more and like lets you kinda go back to playing the games.

David Hernandez 20:30

I mean, do you think, because you grew up with Wi-Fi coming into the games, do you think that Pokemon heavily leaned towards Wi-Fi filling that void compared back in the older games where you didn't have that connection?

Andrew Arboe 20:42

Hmm. I feel like that and also just a developer just wanting to kind of add additional stuff to do. Like, I don't wanna s- like, sometimes Pokemon has a bad habit of taking away, like, features or places that no, like, they probably shouldn't have. Like the partner Pokemon, I know in some, in recent games you could just let the Pokemon out and get that kind of the replacement feature. But it's like stuff to do. like, I don't wanna say, like, take more risk because they have been doing that to give Pokemon credit like Legends Arceus. And I played that game, and I kind of appreciate a lot more of it doing a much different approach there. And even, um, ZA for, focusing more on battles, um, I would argue they probably should add a bit more variety in ZA's case, and also do a lot more activities in the city. And also some of the side quests were kinda got very basic when you realize that the rewards were kind of like minimal. Like, I only have these Pokeballs. I don't care about you. Like, I'm sorry.

David Hernandez 21:36

It felt like more like a shopping list more so than actual, uh, uh, what's the

Andrew Arboe 21:41

and I want to sound that. I still have to play DLC, but the DLC didn't impress me, but I know I probably will get back to it one of these days. Go through the backlog of all the physical games I have, and I'm staring at it on the wall, the new Wii mount TV I have. I got a new desk for that to set it up

David Hernandez 21:56

Now, we've talked a lot about Andrew the trainer, but I kinda wanna tip the mirror towards Andrew the advocate because you advocate for people who're living with autism. You talk about helping people find the path that works for them. And I wanna know, first off, how did you learn that lesson for yourself?

Andrew Arboe 22:12

Actually, I wanna thank these games, like, all the games in my own personal experiences, but like, video games to me kind of served like a outlet for me. When I wasn't, like, at school, it provided a place for me to go. Not to sound like escaping, escapist, but it's like, provided a good outlet, and also a good outlet of experiencing all these different stories. Like, I mentioned, like, some of my favorite stories in Final Fantasy were like, um, X, Final Fantasy X. Like, I played some really, like, amazing type of story lines, like Tomb Raider Chronicles, I can vouch for that whole series. Xenogears 2. The NieR series, like, I'm in love with the NieR series, like NieR: Automata, NieR: Replicant. Like, I grew up with the original NieR on PlayStation 3. Played it right before Automata was announced, and realizing, "Oh. Oh, okay, this is gonna be a series," and watched that go. I'm super proud of that, and I'm hoping Square will not let NieR be buried Like, you have a crazy madman who wears a mask, and this guy gets stuff done. Like, don't let him go. Yes, he's directing the Evangelion anime, but don't let him go. Like, I'm pretty sure he could squeeze in, like, one or two more NieR, games, or at least bring back the mobile game. But I love the storylines, and then Persona 3 was also big because a lot of those themes are, like, the themes of resilience, free will, and you also have, like, the JRPG kinda tropes, like killing God. I get fun talking about that. actually had a successful keynote where these, high school students at, uh, UConn Storrs, and they lit up when I was talking about video games. Was a couple that, you could tell they didn't wanna be there, but they actually were a lot more expressive when I was talking about how JRPGs kind of inspired them because, playing NieR right when I was going to becoming a young adult, that was kinda big, realizing you were kinda the bad guy and, like, not to spoil NieR or, like, teaching you, like, the perspective of things. It sticks with you. So it's like, I appreciate when games kind of do that. They kind of explore that, and they kinda put those, feelings into words, describable words. And then I realized this last year when I was playing, Queer Explorer Expedition Free Free, a really excellent game that touches on the themes of grief, resilience, kind of passing the torch because the developers were really inspired by all the past JRPGs, especially Final Fantasy X. Like, those games really helped me have that increased, like, express range. It's the good writing games, mind you. Like just some JRPGs can be very tropey, mind you. I don't wanna put that. But it's like, I appreciate those games to kind of, you know, like, making me realize, "You know what? This is cool, and I can, like, apply it to my life in some way." I don't have to kill a god. I don't have to do a lot of side quest stuff. I mean, I could. I just go to do coffee shops, do, like, that whole checklist of things if I really want to.

David Hernandez 24:59

Well, Andrew, y- this is gonna be close to the inter- end of the interview, but I wanna finish on a fun question. I know, right? It comes up by c- so quick. But it's gonna be

Andrew Arboe 25:02

Oh, darn

David Hernandez 25:07

a fun question. I think you'll enjoy it. Which six Pokemon would you have on your dream team?

Andrew Arboe 25:11

Oh, easy. Dragonite, I'll try my best not to do fan favorites, but also, to make it really biased, I'm gonna add a level 99 Rowlet on there just for memes and maybe... I mean, if I know, like I do follow some of the world champions and stuff. I mean, if a, that electric, like another, that electric Pokemon, uh, Perseus? What's that Pokemon pronounced? It was like a, like a Pikachu-looking clone, like Pokemon from Gen 4. Perseus? Per- oh

David Hernandez 25:41

u

Andrew Arboe 25:41

Pasuichu. If Pachirisu can tank a Draco Meteor, you know, like those memes from the world championships, I'm pretty sure Rowlet can do the same. It, it stood up against Groudon in those memes. I'll do a Legendary. Darkrai just because it was one of my favorites. I'll add a Lucario just 'cause that I will say is a favorite. And then finally for the fifth and final, I'm gonna have to give it to... a, uh, starter, one of my favorite starters. There's a lot of good choices. Greninja I'm gonna unfortunately gonna have to exclude even if that one's cool too. I'm gonna go with Infernape. Like Infernape is really cool. I have a lot of fun and also because of Fire Pokemon it was so helpful in Platinum.

David Hernandez 26:22

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