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my name is Laser Gator and this is my Pokemon story.
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2 x chain 3 x blue 5 x white 6 x red សាសំប្រាន់រិជរាន្រាត្រោះារម្ម្ម៉្រោះារត់ប្រីម្យះាប្រោះ។
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Welcome to As The Pokeball Ball Turns, where every voice, every journey, and every memory brings us closer to the world of Pokemon.
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I'm David Hernandez and I'm joined by a local community member, laser Gator from the Carrollton community.
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If you wanna know a reference, go to episode 25,'cause that's the community ambassador that he is known for years, but he's here to share his Pokemon story and how Pokemon's influenced his life.
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These are Gator.
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Welcome to As The Pokeball Turns.
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Thanks for coming on.
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I'm glad to be here, man.
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it's been so long since I've had a local on this podcast and you have a lot of experience with Pokemon Go, which we're gonna dive in, but let's start it off slow.
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What is your favorite Pokemon?
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My favorite Pokemon is Electivire.
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Really?
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Why Electivire?
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Because I grew up watching The Pokemon, uh, Sinnoh Anime and there was this one rival, I would say is Ash's Best rival.
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His name was Paul and Paul's Ace was Electivire.
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He was the foil for Ash's Chimchar,.
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Monferno, Infernape Every single time that that Electivire.
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Comes out of Paul's ball, you know, it was about to go down.
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I mean, Paul was such an interesting character too, right?
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Because he was like the complete opposite of how Ash viewed the world, and I think Paul was probably one of my favorite rivals, if not the favorite rival For those who don't know, Paul was very, I.
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Say choosy about The Pokeball he raised and he was very kind of, if you were weak, then he really showed you you were weak.
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That's kind of what the story with the team tar, right?
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So imagine a casual player versus a competitive player.
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That's how I would, you know, think of it
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so you see Paul as a competitive player and Ash is the casual player.
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kind of, because I remember a scene where he releases like three starleys and he kept one of the, you know, better IV or like nature ones.
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that's crazy.
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very similar to Pokemon Go, But what was it about VIR for you?
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Because you said that's your favor.
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What was it about just seeing that VIR was just the fact that it was such a difficult Pokemon to defeat?
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Was it just its attitude?
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What drew you to it?
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the reason why is because, it was the cockiness of it because at this point EL had not lost against Ferno infer in charm.
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That dominance it, it was until the very end essentially haunting and like, come on, get up.
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I wanna fight you more.
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I like that energy.
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It's like it, said, come on.
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Like just bring it.
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Remind me of the rock a little bit cockiness, but kind of a cool cockiness.
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Oh yeah.
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Was that anime, the intro for you into Pokemon?
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When did you first get in, dive into that?
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Oh, no, no, no, no.
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I was kind of through, at the beginning I had, three, no, five older cousins, right.
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And we all lived near the same, you know, same block.
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So I have a 8-year-old, you know, eight year, age gap between three of my older siblings, five year age gap.
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So for one and a three year age gap for another one.
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So we would play, The Pokemon anime while we were, you know, all there amount of times we saw I think the anime show where it was like giant Pokemon on the VHS that would always, you know, have a cycle.
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It sounds like y'all would all just get together, kind of like little family, like watch party, and y'all would just watch Pokemon Anime episodes.
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it's either that or rush hour two.
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Did it bring you closer, do you think, to your family being so close to be able to watch Pokemon?
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yes, it would've.
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Yes, it, it did.
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I guess, how often or how long did this kind of happen for you growing up?
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I would say about, um, like couple months reason why, um, look, I don't really remember much'cause I was like really young at that time and I moved away.
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you know, that art like three years old, so, but I still do remember, I still do remember, you know, actually watching Pokemon from their home.
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The fact that you still remember at such a young age, age of three, you know me, sounds like that left impression on you or left a mark on you, like you kind of wish you still kind of had that even growing up as you got older or like,
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It's mainly that, you know, family all being there together because, some of'em are, you know, in Colorado, some of'em are in, Philly right now.
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And some of'em actually just got, they told me like two weeks ago that, hey, they're expecting so
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Wow.
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I know.
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Now for you specifically, you watched the anime, you mentioned how you were watching Paul, that was kind of Electivire was your favorite Pokemon from Paul's team, you know, how did your, I guess, connection with Pokemon Progress, did you get into the games, the cards, or were you just exclusively just the anime?
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I had my DS back in like 2007.
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I picked out, my first Pokemon game was actually, Pokemon, soul Silver for the Ds.
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I remember when I got it, like I remember playing that and like falling asleep to one of the more soothing, I can't remember the route name.
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Like it was rather soothing, just asleep in the car, like long drives until, until the DS died.
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Of course.
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Right, right.
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So it's like you're a little MP three player for those who know.
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Yes.
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I'm trying to think what route it would be though.
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It must have been that route between Olivin at Critique or Could have been.
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It's another soothing one.
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I think it was like a park or something.
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Oh, it must be, where the bug catching contest was.
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Oh, I could see that one.
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I forgot about that one.
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So you would just sleep and listen to that and you would just snooze through that.
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Just listening to it.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's good though.
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It is some of The Pokeball music, especially to now today, it's really decent.
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Mm-hmm.
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really, not, not really to sleep to, but it's, really heart puffing.
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What do you remember about playing Soul Silver?
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Besides the, listening to music to sleep, was there anything else particular about those games that remember?
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so funny story.
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I used to watch a lot of, um, rom hacks.
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I did not know what a rom hack was.
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So there's, there was these, YouTube videos and, oh, if you go to this place, you'll be able to find, like a shadow Lugia we could clearly see that it was, modded.
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again, I was like nine or 10.
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I didn't know that these were moed.
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So one day me and my friends, we watched a video saying, Hey, if you catch a Relicanth and a Wailord, on this route or something.
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This is like post game stuff.
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If you'd catch those two, go to this certain cave or something, you'll be able to find a Regigigas.
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No,
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interesting.
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there was no Regigigas.
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It was all, it was for a different rum hat
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But you believed it though.
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You like you've invested time and to get to it.
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I didn't really know what ROM hacks were.
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I mean, I think that's the fun part about Pokemon, right?
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you know, anybody who's played the main Sears games knows that there's always that myth or rumor we think it's true.
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For me, playing Hoen, I always thought if you got to a hundred rockets, you go up to see Jirachi.
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And I think that's the fun part about Pokemon for all of us, is that there's that potential for a story, even if it's not true, it's that mystery.
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Oh, yeah.
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how did it feel when you found out it wasn't true?
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I kind abruptly because me and my friends, we took turns trying to catch the Wailord as the Wailord, in one of these, routes, like only a 1% chance.
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So when we learned out that it was not real, we were both defeated because at that point we spent like, I don't know, like.
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Seven hours trying to catch that damn way.
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Only realize, hey,
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I were determined,
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yes,
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hey, at least the romack didn't show you had to catch a Shiny Wailord or a Shiny Relicanth.
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'Cause then that would've been more heartbreaking.
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exactly.
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Would you and your friends share a game together?
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Would y'all like trade and battle?
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Like what did that dynamic look like for y'all?
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On his Gs his parents brought him, oh, I'm gonna close my age, I guess, but, do you know what the G four, G four was?
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Yes, I do know what G four was.
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one of his, older sibling, older cousins, he bought, you know, GAG four cartridge and it had had mostly all of The Pokemon games, already inserted into that thing.
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I don't really know if I could have traded with that thing.
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'cause most of them were, I don't know if they were legal or not.
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Like he had almost every single Pokemon game, like, fire, red Leaf Green, all the GBA, you know, GBA games, the DS games.
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so I, I watched him, you know, play some of them because, I only had Pokemon white, SoulSilver and Black 2.
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do you have a preference on which games you played out of those three?
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outta the most ones that I played the most.
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It was Pokemon White,
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Why Pokemon White.
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Zekrom, easily, Zekrom.
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Oh, you love Zekrom?
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Yes!.
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Noticing a little pattern.
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You your favorite's electric type and you like crom.
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It sounds like you have a preference for electric types.
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Maybe.
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Probably, probably
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Maybe just a little bit.
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not too on the, of course.
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what aspects of Pokemon White do you remember, what sticks out to your brain Whenever you think about that game.
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So,.
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Going back to, Andela Town, I think this was, one of the best things I've, I remember was, Bianca's talking to his, to her parents, essentially her dad was saying, Hey, I think you've done enough.
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Please come home while Bianca says, no, I'm gonna continue my thing.
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I feel like that, especially in The Pokeball game, that's really, you know, powerful, you know, standing up.
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With the nation parent standing up to your parents?
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That's crazy.
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Like that really spoke to you in a way.
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Yes.
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Did you go through something similar or you just kind of resonate with Bianca A little bit.
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I would say a little bit of both, honestly.
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That's fair.
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I mean.
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It is such a difficult thing to talk about, especially'cause you know, a lot of us grow up to where you're supposed to respect your parents, some of us don't have, maybe some of us don't have those kind of good parents that we kinda have to go against and it's hard to do that.
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It's one of your hardest choices you've ever had to make.
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For me personally, I remember when I had to go against my own mother,'cause my mom had this certain way of seeing the world, this certain way of.
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I'll say doing things.
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And one of the hardest things for me to do was kind of escape that because A, I love my mother, don't get me wrong.
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But B, I had to find my own path, had to kind of define who I wanted to be.
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As a person, and it's such a difficult challenge for people to do because we wanna love our parents.
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We want to kind of make them happy, make them proud.
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Sometimes at the end of the day, you're the one who has to live with the choices.
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You know, your parents are gonna eventually pass away.
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They're gonna eventually move on, and then it's your life.
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And it's so difficult.
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Like, I get it.
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'cause it's, it was an easy decision for me.
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It's still not easy sometimes, but I get it, man.
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It's, it's a very, what Bianca went through,'cause her choice was similar to where she had to either choose between listening to her dad and going home and just packing it up or keep going forward to see what that road led to her.
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And then the flip side was that dad had to accept that Bianca was growing up, that she was becoming a grown woman.
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So it's two different dynamics.
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'cause I'm sure I'm not a parent, never going to be, but I'm sure for parents out there, they probably relate to that to where eventually their kid's gonna have to make their own choices and that's hard.
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It's very hard.
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Oh yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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I really wanted, you know, at least our player to say something.
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I know Pokemon is not, you know, not known for, you know, the character speaking, but like I wanted to, you know, at least give us some text boxes just to say something
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I mean, we're not a Pokemon game.
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Let's talk about it.
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what would you have said to Bianca in that moment if you could have
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Do what you're hard is, right.
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do?
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What you think is right?
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Why?
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Why?
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Yeah, why that message?
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Because at some point it's your choices, right?
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It could be bad, it could be good.
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It.
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You gotta just choose.
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Hey you.
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Yes, you with the ears.
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Don't go anywhere.
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We'll be right back.
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Let's dive into, your Pokemon Go experience.
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'cause I know that's where I've known you.
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I know you've been in very active community.
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Talk to us about when you first started playing, what was it like?
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I.
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So I actually was a day one.
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on July 6th or seventh, sometimes like that in 2016.
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One of my friends saying, Hey, I don't know this type Pokemon Go.
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It's live now jump in.
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I did exactly that and what I didn't know though is I can't use my school email just to sign up.
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my school email.
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I played until 2016, all the way to 20, 2018.
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I've, I've kind of fell off at 2018.
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Not gonna lie.
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I feel like that year in particular, people really, dipped then, um, got back into it, you know, just a few years ago.
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I just want to get outta the house.
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after a trip going to India, I realized, Hey, your account is gone now.
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Your email no longer exists.
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Oh man,
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but now I created a new account and level 70.
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Now I'm big 70.
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I got so many different, you know, types of Pokemon that my previous account barely would not even be, you know, worth it.
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and that's how I managed to find the group just by, simple workout actually.
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So I used to go to the recreation center.
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So there was a sticker at the recreation center and on the sticker it was The Pokeball, go, gym logo.
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I made us run into two people who were doing a Regigigas EX-Raid.
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Do you remember those things?
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Oh yeah, I remember those.
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They were fun.
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I miss'em.
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So I asked, Hey, is this, you know, Pokemon Go is coming back, right?
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So they added me, of course, into the, the original Pokemon Go Discord.
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and then COVID happened.
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Of course I was there for missing number, EV event, the Super Bowl event.
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I was there.
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I sat back, ACE some popcorn, watched Star Fire crash out.
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Again, if you want to listen.
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go to 25, but going back into Pokemon Go, it truly did, bring me back, you know, love to Pokemon because this time, it was more about community rather than, Hey, we gotta catch'em all now.
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Well, when Pokemon Go came out, you were mostly inside.
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It sounded like you wanted to get outside.
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did you feel like you were very isolated and shut in at the time?
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I just did not want to go outside because at that time it was still summer.
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I did not have the greatest, phone data.
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So my.
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Usage of Pokemon Go was limited to malls and, you know, gyms, you know, like actual workout gyms.
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Right.
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That 2016 summer.
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Oh my god.