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my name is Sharpie, the owner of Unova Region Champion Black, and this is my Pokemon story.
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Welcome to As The Pokeball Turns, where every voice, every journey, and every memory brings us closer to the world of Pokemon.
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David Hernandez and I'm joined by Sharpie, the owner of the Unova Region Champion Black Facebook page.
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Sharpie, welcome to As The Pokeball Turns.
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Hey, thanks for having me.
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Absolutely Sharpie.
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And you know, to have, I guess, a Facebook owner page'cause a lot of people feel like Facebook's kind of dead or it's kind of the thing of the past.
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before we dive into anything, I want to guess give some insight to what is the Unova Region Champion Black Facebook page.
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Like, what is it about?
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Honestly.
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So So, I wanna preface by saying this, originally, this was not my Facebook page.
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case.
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my original Facebook page was the Real Rival Silver, which the, that page is not up anymore.
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The backup page is still active.
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It's still, it's not active, but it's up.
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But the original page, got taken down by Facebook in 2014, But.
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My friend Happened to have, Unova Region Champion Black.
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He started this page about two months after I started my original one and we became friends because at that time the Facebook community was really popping and everybody had the Facebook pages and it was just like you had the super popular ones and he had the kind of popular ones and then he had the ones that were trying to grow.
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a lot of times you saw page admins on multiple different pages and that was just kind of like the thing.
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So he was in the admin on my original page, I was the admin on his page and Unova Region Champion Black at most I think had eight page admins on it.
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And just over time, throughout life or whatever the page pretty much got down to one admin and it's been just me for Probably since 2017 and I took time off of the page just because I had a lot of life going on between like 2017 and 2019.
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I hate to say that like I let the page die.
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I just, I didn't delete it, but I just, I let it die.
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I just, I couldn't focus on it at all.
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And then 20 19, 20 20, I kind of started picking back up.
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I wanna see if I can rebuild this page and, you know, just make it feel more like me since I'm the only one here anyways.
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And I needed a hobby to kind of get myself away from just real life.
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And then I started posting, I'd only post like a couple of times a day and then I would start posting more often.
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And then COVID happened and I didn't really have anything else to do but post, so I started posting more often so it went from maybe two or three times a day to like five or six times a day.
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And as of the last three years.
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I've been posting probably nine to 10 times a day every day for the last three years straight
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Oh my God.
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That's some dedication.
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is, and I don't really know how I've kept it up like
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gonna ask like how.
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and before they let us actually schedule posts, I was actually going in manually every two hours.
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It didn't matter if I was at work, it didn't matter if I was at church or out, you know, on the street, or if I was just playing games with family, I would stop what I'm doing or you know, I could be out at dinner and if I know that timeframe has passed, I'm going and I posted something else.
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And it's at the point now where even though I can schedule posts, I don't do it because it's now wired in my brain that every two hours I have to check my phone.
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so you're like almost attached to your phone.
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You have to make sure that it's kind of there anyway.
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Yeah, I try to tell myself, okay, I need to break.
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I need to break myself outta this habit.
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I need to get back to scheduling posts.
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And I'll schedule posts for like a week and then after and, and I'll still go back every two hours.
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Like, did I schedule that the right way?
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'cause sometimes I'll schedule it for the wrong time or for the wrong day, and I have to go back and fix it or go and post something else and leave that for another day.
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And then I get frustrated because now I've messed up my routine.
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But it's been a while.
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Three years.
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Last year for me was an insane year for me for growth because I started at around 33,000 followers, and I ended the year, I believe at 133,000 followers.
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That's just in that one year.
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Whereas I spent the last, 10 years before that, trying to build this page up in one year.
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I tripled, you know, my follower base.
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And I still don't know what happened because I, I haven't replicated it.
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I'm not on that same trend this year, which is fine, but I don't know I what happened last year for me to get to the point that I'm at now.
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Now you mentioned how you took a break initially.
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You took about two page.
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Two years.
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I'm
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Mm-hmm.
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about two years to kind of take a break at, after 2017, what inspired you to want to come back to this page?
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'cause it could have been easy just to forget about it and just be like, it's over.
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That's the end of the chapter.
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But you decided to come back specifically for this page and continue it on its legacy.
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What made you want to come back?
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honestly, I was dealing with a lot of.
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trauma, a lot of bad things that were just like kind of going on in my life at the time And even though I spent I guess a somewhat decent amount of time on Facebook and even on other social media platforms, I just, I always kept coming back to Facebook and every now and then I would see, you know, one of the pages that was like, back when all the pages were booming, one of the pages that were still active, they would post something and I'm like.
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I kind of miss, you know, that old page community, you know, I wish we could, you know, build that back up and then I would see a couple of pages that were newer, but they were active and I was like, oh.
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So, you know, there are still active, Pokemon fan pages that are out there.
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I still have this one and I kind of just kind of use it as a gauge to see if this community, if my community is active, even though I've been gone for so long, then I'll keep going.
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But if I can't, get that activity back up, then I'll kind of just let it go.
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You know, at least be try, I'll do something else, or I'll focus on myself and the other social media platforms that I'm on and work on their growth there.
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we had a couple of posts that did pretty well and I was like, okay, this isn't, you know, it's not too bad.
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I can probably build on this.
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I didn't know how, but I was just going to keep trying until I got somewhere and then I got somewhere.
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what felt different, I guess, about engaging the community at that point, you know, compared to before 2017 to even afterwards.
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Was there a difference or was it kind of more the same?
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It's a huge difference.
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some of the people that I recognize coming back, like one thing I like about Facebook is it's easy to tell who's been around for a while and who's relatively new because I still see names that I saw back in, you know, 2013 that, you know, I saw it come back to the page when I came back in 2019.
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And I was like, wow, you've been following for a long time.
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And you know, you don't realize that those names are kind of like stuck in your head until you see them again.
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And like, okay, hey, I remember you, or I think I remember you.
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but the community back then it was a lot more active.
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like we had a lot of pages that were doing collabs together and doing all kinds of community events.
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And we would set up Facebook groups where we could, you know, combine our fan bases and we might have Pokemon tournaments or, you know, really big giveaways or, you know, just in general having fun.
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And nowadays, even though it's starting to build back up again up with like a new crop of talent, new crop of pages, it still doesn't feel as.
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Lively as it used to.
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I personally have been trying to get a lot of different Pokemon pages from different walks of life to mesh their communities together again.
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And you know, there's always gonna be a couple outliers, you know, people that kind of just want to, you know, do their own thing and that's fine.
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Like, you know, I support you growing your community.
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'cause at the end of the day, we're all here for Pokemon.
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But I kind of, I don't wanna say, I feel this is probably the only nostalgic thing about Pokemon for me that really kind of gets me is I do miss the way the community used to be compared to how it is now.
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But at the same time, I enjoy the fact that the community is building itself anew.
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could you get some insight on that?
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Like, do you mean the different, same based on the Facebook side or overall?
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I would say primarily on the Facebook side, the overall social media platform of Pokemon has just grown in general with Pokemon Go and with the competitive scene growing to the point where it's, even if you don't necessarily play competitive, you know, certain people, you know, within the competitive realm of Pokemon or if you're a shiny hunter or if you're this, people know these names more and I feel like we're almost in like a renaissance period for Pokemon as a whole, but to dwindling down to Facebook, it's a little bit of the same, like, kind of like a, a lesser renaissance type feel.
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And just like specifically for fan pages and One of the things that I noticed when I first came back is that we had fan pages, but they didn't really interact with their fan base, with their fan base.
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And one of the things that helped my page take off and the original, well I'll say the original, community Days, is that most of us as fan page admins, we were active in talking with our community.
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It wasn't just, okay, we're gonna post something and then leave it alone.
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It was if, you know, if somebody commented on it, you know, we responded to the comments and you know, we would have conversations and this thing and that thing.
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And coming back.
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Initially we didn't really have that, at least I didn't really see it no matter you know, what page I was on.
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I didn't really see people commenting like towards their fans, like having those conversations.
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And I was like, well, it just doesn't feel the same.
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but I was gonna keep doing what I was used to.
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I was used to talking to the fans.
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So if I brought up, a subject, whether it was something related to the games or to the anime, and I wanted to have a conversation, I would post something that's a conversation piece.
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on my Facebook page bio, it says, Hey, you know, I'm probably gonna argue with you, but like, don't take it seriously for me.
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It's all in good fun.
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right.
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And I think that a lot of people see me as like a controversial poster, because I will post my opinion and I will argue with you on your opinion and my opinion.
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and I get a lot of mess for this, and it's, it's fine because everybody, you know, is entitled to their opinion.
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but it's like we have so many people that feel so strongly about things and I'm passionate to see those conversations keep going and going.
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So there are parts of the conversation where even though I don't agree with your standpoint, I agree with parts of it, but I'm not gonna focus on the parts that I agree with.
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I'm going to specifically focus on the parts that I disagree with for the sake of keeping the conversation going.
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Because that increases that viewership and that brings, you know, more people to this conversation.
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And then more people get to talking.
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And not only are they talking with me, but now they're talking with each other.
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And then you build, these relationships, whether they're good or bad, but you build these relationships.
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Amongst each other and with them, And it's like, okay, great.
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You know, this conversation, this, this post went well and it all started because I said that I like Alola and everybody else hates Alola, or I agree with DExT.
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And everybody's like, Dex, it was a bad idea.
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They lied.
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Game freak lied, you know?
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And I'm just like, I care because everybody playing Pokemon should be happy.
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And no, you can't really please everybody, but there are things that you can avoid and things you can't avoid.
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And I feel like everybody deserves the right to not just express their opinion, but everybody deserves the right to have fun if they want to.
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the only time you'll see me really get serious with a Pokemon conversation is if I see other people trying, trying to dwindle people's ability to have fun.
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I think it's a shift at some point.
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I don't know when, but some point I think people who were, I'll say creators, whether it be the Facebook, I.
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Or any kind of media became more onlookers instead of being involved within the community.
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You know, I remember growing up, a lot of the people I watched, they were also involved, like you were talking about.
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They would lead discussions, they would lead talks, some of them against some very controversial subjects, let's be honest.
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yes, they would get their flag for it, but they would also open up a conversation to other people's minds out or open other open people's minds, but also be able to lead dialogue.
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And you don't see that much, much anymore.
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You get people who to avoid the controversial side, who maybe avoid like the negativity, which I get it.
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You know, you wanna protect your mental health, but at the same time there's that conversation's still gonna happen whether you engage with it or
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Mm-hmm.
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And if you don't engage with it, well what does that lead you to?
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Right?
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You lead to maybe people getting ideas that maybe aren't the best, not just for Pokemon, but maybe overall at least that's what do you think?
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That's my thought.
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I agree.
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I, I feel like people are, I.
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I don't wanna say afraid, but people are more concerned with protecting their image or their brand than to really talk about, the hard hitting subjects or to have those conversations about, you know, the hard hitting subjects or, the way things are, not just with the people that make Pokemon, but the people that play Pokemon, the people that talk about it, like social media doesn't seem to be, you know, where it used to be, where we could, you know, unapologetically have these conversations without worrying about offending a bunch of people or getting canceled or, you know, whatever it is.
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And for me that's just not fun.
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It doesn't, for me promote.
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Growth within the community to where everybody's, voice can be heard.
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Like your opinion as a, as a content creator, your opinion matters too.
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And to be so worried about the backlash from whatever it is that you might have to say is unfortunate.
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Because while I understand that, you have an image to protect or you've got, you know, so and so sponsoring you I understand that point of view, but to limit yourself in this, in such a conversation that's so vast, I just, I feel it's unfortunate to see people not be willing to.
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Step out and say something and not just like yell and, okay, you know, these people are yelling or these guys are bad, or they could, you know, do better.
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Not just to be, you know, antagonistic, but just to talk, to have the debates, the conversations, for me, I wanna bring that back in any way that I can.
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I don't want people, people shouldn't have to be afraid to speak their mind correctly.
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Of course.
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I want to dive into your experience with Pokemon.
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Let's get people an idea of like, who's the Pokemon side of your page.
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what's your experience with Pokemon?
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Where does this all start?
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Pokemon for me started, pretty much at the very beginning.
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it hit the states, at that time I was only like four years old.
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And to me it was really just the TV show, like it, it was just the anime.
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And I loved the anime.
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And then, my mom and my dad, when we found out, when they found out about the games, they got me to Pokemon games and they didn't think anything of it, you know, it's, a kid with cute creatures and they're, you know, they're going on adventures and stuff like that, so you don't think anything about that as a parent, And it was almost a very, very short lived career for folk, for me as a Pokemon fan, because both of my parents were very religious.
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And when it started coming out about the whole pocket monsters things and demons and this thing, they took like everything from me.
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Like my game boys were gone, my Pokemon games were gone.
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All my Pokemon bedsheets were like gone and thrown away.
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And it was, it was jarring for me to lose this thing that like I had, you know, very quickly become super attached to because of, what people were saying about it.
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And I wasn't really old enough to say, Hey, but that's not, you know, that's not what's happening.
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We're not being, you know, manipulated or hypnotized and, you know, all this other stuff.
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But, you know, I was, I was a little kid, so I didn't really get it.
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My grandfather pretty much is the reason that I like, was able to stay into it because he would go, he went and he bought me a second game boy and another Pokemon game.
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But he kept it at his house.
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So whenever, like when I got the chance to play, like whenever I gotta go over to his, to his house, I would've played.
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And I was just playing Pokemon.
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He encouraged and everything.
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Like he said, don't worry about them.
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I, I got you, you know, just grandparent things.
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And over the years my mom realized that it was not leaving me like, she could not get Pokemon away from me, so she kind of gave up.
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Like, she, she really kind of gave up and she was just like, look, as long as you keep your grades good, then, you know, whatever, it's fine.
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around 2002, my dad passed away and getting ready for his funeral and everything.
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I was on my way to my grandmother's house and We were out at the store.
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It was my, me, my sister, and my mom, my cousin, and my godbrother, and we were out, you know, getting things prepared and everything.
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And being in New York, there's, you know, all kinds of stuff happening everywhere.
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There's a bunch of people around.
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You can keep up with most things, but you can't keep up with everything.
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So some, so all of all of our stuff was in the trunk of our car.
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Like all of our Christmas presents, all of our clothes, all of our, you know, game was and everything like that.
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Were all in the trunk of the car.
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Somebody somehow had popped the trunk of our car, took all of our stuff out.
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They stole, like stole all of our stuff and closed it back without anybody noticing until we got to my grandmother's house and opened the trunk and nothing was there.
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And my heart was shattered because at this point I'd done lost my father, not, I lost my game, my Pokemon games for the second time, and I was like, you know what?
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I quit.
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I, I, I can't, you know, I can't be a Pokemon fan anymore.
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I'm like eight years old, nine years old.
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I was just as heartbroken over my dad passing as me losing all my game boy games.
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Just got gold and silver and it was like, gut wrenching for me.
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I missed a little bit of that time.
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Fast forward a few years, I was getting into a lot of fights at school.
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I didn't have any Pokemon games, but I had a lot of Pokemon carts.
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I.
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Me getting into fights at school.
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My mom was not happy.
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My mom threw away every Pokemon card I had ever had from when they first came out.
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So like a lot of the first edition cards that are like probably now worth thousands of dollars all gone, all trash.
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And then they were in the trash bag, came home ball in tears.
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Sad you threw my Pokemon cards away and she let me keep some of them.
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So, you know, I kept out the little holographic ones and my holographic G guards and muses and stuff like that.
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And the mute card from the movie.
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Like, I kept all that stuff and she actually made me take a pair of scissors and cut up every other card.
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So at this point I'm three generations in the Pokemon and I've had three separate tragedies happen to me.
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And I got into one more fight at school.
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And them cards that she let me keep, I no longer could keep'em.
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And they were, they were gone like they were.
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And I never saw them again.
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And at until this day, I have not collected Pokemon cards because of that it was, it was rough.
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Like, so yeah, I, I don't touch Pokemon cards anymore.
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I still have some that have been like given to me or like, you know, Christmas present, birthday present.
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Like, I still have some Pokemon cards, but as far as being a collector like I was when I was a kid, never again, gen four was the same thing that happened to me in gen two.
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I had a DS and I had Pokemon Diamond.
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It was like a month after the games came out.
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And somebody that I thought was a friend of mine stole my Ds and stole my Pokemon Diamond game.
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At this point, it wasn't like my mom wasn't gonna replace the Ds like that, that was a whole console.
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She wasn't replacing that.
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She wasn't replacing the game.
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So I missed out on Diamond, Pearl Platinum, har Code Soul, silver and black and white one before I could get another Ds.
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And at that point I stopped watching the anime.
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of course, I couldn't play the games unless I was like playing on an emulator.
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And for me, I was just done.
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I I, I was done with Pokemon for all of Gen four and half of Gen five.
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And I didn't start playing.
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I didn't get another DS again until I started working.
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I got hard gonna soul silver, even though black and white two were getting ready to come out.
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And from then on, now that I'm old enough to get my own games, that's exactly what I did.
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I got my own games, I did all my own stuff.
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Nobody was gonna take anything from me.
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I was going to enjoy myself.
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And this is also around the same timeframe where I made my Facebook page, my original one.
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I would talk about her gonna soul silver.